{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n toybot<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,067 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n toybot<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:12:40+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n woahsia wrote:<\/h4>How will this be enforced in more vague cases? For example a member of the BNG or QAT can just set a donation goal on stream, and then when he reaches the goal he will make a map from a song that will be chosen from a poll that is voted on by followers. Does this still count as doing a commission as it is technically not done directly and would be unknown without proper context?<\/blockquote>\n\nNo not really, that's more of a public fundraising project rather than a private commission, since it involves the community interacting with the stream and people are more or less donating for stream entertainment<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Zexous<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 713 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Zexous<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:24:06+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n WOOOOOO YEAH<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Linada<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 995 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Linada<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:30:41+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Princess Kisses wrote:<\/h4>Linada wrote:<\/h4>there is zero way to know if a mapset is a commission tho, mapper just have to not tell and nobody will know<\/blockquote>\nNo but the can't publicly their commissions thus will be getting a lot less requests<\/blockquote>\ni believe that one person affected by this doesnt need more exposure at the time being, and can just continue doing this just free<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Beomsan<\/a>\n\n \n Beatmap Nominator\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,890 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Beomsan<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:37:55+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Nice, I hope as many people as possible don't make maps for money...<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n squirrelpascals<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,002 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2015<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n squirrelpascals<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:39:21+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I also think the uncertainty of wether or not a map is commissioned should be addressed.\n\nOther than that awesome change! Hope this gets extended to more of the community in the future<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Masomi<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2016<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Masomi<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T16:42:40+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n About time, nice!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n WoctorDho<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 4 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2016<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n WoctorDho<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T17:49:50+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I think this was a very responsible way to handle this situation. wp<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n owo<\/span><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Ascendance<\/a>\n\n \n Elite Mapper\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 4,250 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Ascendance<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T17:56:31+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n squirrelpascals wrote:<\/h4>I also think the uncertainty of wether or not a map is commissioned should be addressed.Other than that awesome change! Hope this gets extended to more of the community in the future<\/blockquote>An obligation to say (in map desc or something) if the map was a commission or not would be nice. Lying about that kind of thing now has serious consequences and ahould have a harsh penalty.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Nyxa<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 848 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed October 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Nyxa<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-12-12T17:59:14+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Come[Back]Home wrote:<\/h4>Wait what? People actually took money to map something? Really makes you look different at those persons. Mapping is supposed to be for the fun part, and not for money or fame. I seriously can't believe it and am truly shocked. So this is what the mapping community has come to? Thats what happens when people get drunk on their fame.<\/blockquote>\n\nWhile I agree with the ruling, I can't help but be bothered by posts like this. Taking money for doing something you are good at and enjoy is not only normal, it is something practically every content creator does. It's not just people who draw art, all kinds of content creators take money for the work and effort they put into a piece of content in some form or other, be it through Patreon, Youtube ads, Twitch subs, or anything else.\n\nWhat really impresses me about the ruling is that it does not outright ban commissions, it bans making money off of the backs of others' works. This is good, because this is how it works in most places as well. Unless you fall under Fair Use you need the artist's permission in some form or other in order to make money off of their work.\n\nMy point is, while I'm sure there's very shady things to take commission for, saying \"Mapping is supposed to be for the fun part, and not for money or fame.\" is horribly lopsided considering the amount of effort some mappers put into their maps. If someone is willing to pay them for it, and they don't abuse either the system or other artist's work in the process, there is nothing wrong with them accepting that payment.\n\nOne good use case I could see for this would be an up and coming artist paying a very popular mapper to map their song so it could gain attention. This is a form of ment and would be perfectly fair imo.\n\nAnd don't forget that while this is a free game, osu!er is practically the same as Patreon. Mappers are content creators for osu just like programmers are, so I don't see why one form is appalling while the other isn't.\n\nJust my 2c.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n [Shiny]<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 153 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 28192z