This is the question that has been bothering me lately. Artificial Intelligence is being used frequently nowadays. And to be honest, I've been using AI as well, to write some Job Applications for me. AI can be neccesary if you don't know what ideas you could have, but it will lose the need to think creatively, which is a bit dangerous for the society. I've been using AI to even talk with fictional characters, which actually sounds insane and weird, I know. I just can't help being addicted to AI.

So, the question is, is AI really making us less creative?

So far, I've never used the artificial intelligence to help me with my tasks like writing something, but I do think that it contributes to our society being less creative and doing less great things than before. It was also the case when technology was new to us, and now it's a part of our life

AI would allow creative ppl without talent to be free from their limitations. And create the works they have in their mind, but don't have the skills necessary to do it in the traditional way. So no.

I don't think so

Jangsoodlor wrote: 455q5

AI would allow creative ppl without talent to be free from their limitations.

So a creative person without talent will be judged in the same way as a person who practices an activity for years

ai covers are fine
ai art is just NO
ai art might make me quit being an artist if it gets really bad

lostsilver wrote: 1n373n

ai covers are fine
ai art is just NO
ai art might make me quit being an artist if it gets really bad

"if it gets really bad"

This was done by an AI btw... 😬

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

Jangsoodlor wrote: 455q5

AI would allow creative ppl without talent to be free from their limitations.

So a creative person without talent will be judged in the same way as a person who practices an activity for years

No. But AI would be the means for them to express their creativity. Arts done by actual artists is better than AI arts at the end of they day.

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

lostsilver wrote: 1n373n

ai covers are fine
ai art is just NO
ai art might make me quit being an artist if it gets really bad

"if it gets really bad"

This was done by an AI btw... 😬

OH. MY. GOD.
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHY SO MANY ARTISTS ARE QUITTING.
ugh... i hate ai art... SO. FREAKING. MUCH.

Lazy people are lazy themselves too begin with

kinda hot take, reader's discrection advised

With AI, it raise the buffer of laziness that are acceptable, so works that are used to be called lazy, now will be somehwat bearable with the help of AI. For anyone determined and curious, AI will extend their capabilities and let them do more. It may help them referencing, quick research of how is the fashion of a working class in 18th century looks like, maybe simulating how cloth moves and such

Nanofranne wrote: 6iv6o

Lazy people are lazy themselves too begin with

kinda hot take, reader's discrection advised

With AI, it raise the buffer of laziness that are acceptable, so works that are used to be called lazy, now will be somehwat bearable with the help of AI. For anyone determined and curious, AI will extend their capabilities and let them do more

but taking peoples art and feeding it through an ai is just unacceptable.
i do not want to get into a heated debate about ai, ai is fine. but feeding peoples artwork into it, letting the ai recreate it, and taking it as your own? that is straight up unacceptable. don't get me wrong, i love ai covers, but i ABSOLUTELY FRICKING HATE AI ART. IT'S FRICKING AWFUL. ANYOE WHO SAYS AI ART IS GOOD, NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED. ARTISTS LIKE ME ARE QUITTING BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THEM, WHO ARE MAKING THIS KIND OF CRAP. i'm sorry, i just- URGHH I HATE AI ART JBFHDSKGHDJFNK-

okay uhm sorry for getting so heated-

lostsilver wrote: 1n373n

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

lostsilver wrote: 1n373n

ai covers are fine
ai art is just NO
ai art might make me quit being an artist if it gets really bad

"if it gets really bad"

This was done by an AI btw... 😬

OH. MY. GOD.
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHY SO MANY ARTISTS ARE QUITTING.
ugh... i hate ai art... SO. FREAKING. MUCH.

to be fair, a lot of that is just detail for the sake of detail, none of it has much meaning or relatedness, while an actual painter who does that kind of style still makes much better pieces.

lostsilver wrote: 1n373n

Nanofranne wrote: 6iv6o

Lazy people are lazy themselves too begin with

kinda hot take, reader's discrection advised

With AI, it raise the buffer of laziness that are acceptable, so works that are used to be called lazy, now will be somehwat bearable with the help of AI. For anyone determined and curious, AI will extend their capabilities and let them do more

but taking peoples art and feeding it through an ai is just unacceptable.
i do not want to get into a heated debate about ai, ai is fine. but feeding peoples artwork into it, letting the ai recreate it, and taking it as your own? that is straight up unacceptable. don't get me wrong, i love ai covers, but i ABSOLUTELY FRICKING HATE AI ART. IT'S FRICKING AWFUL. ANYOE WHO SAYS AI ART IS GOOD, NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED. ARTISTS LIKE ME ARE QUITTING BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THEM, WHO ARE MAKING THIS KIND OF CRAP. i'm sorry, i just- URGHH I HATE AI ART JBFHDSKGHDJFNK-

okay uhm sorry for getting so heated-

That's fine.

Some people like simple mass produced plastic chair, a lot of people prefer handcrafted artisan's teak wooden chair.

It's affecting both beginners and expert alike. Seasoned artist might already have prominent names and thus, career stability out there but they are the bigger target for AI's training model. Their masterpiece that what makes them as an individiual, gone forever to be copied heartlessly for endless copies. As an artist, we need to unify our thought and action to retaliate such troubling paradigm shift.

I recommend everyone to watch Adam from Lucidpixul on youtube, great insight for this

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

yes but because i have no faith in humanity's ability to use this tech responsibly
not to forget about the big guy with power, they could be steering things in any direction

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

Technically if you consider ChatGPT has a fictional character then yes

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

Technically if you consider ChatGPT has a fictional character then yes

I use c.ai 💀

Aireunaeus wrote: 25e15

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

Technically if you consider ChatGPT has a fictional character then yes

I use c.ai 💀

Who's thattt

Aireunaeus wrote: 25e15

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

Technically if you consider ChatGPT has a fictional character then yes

I use c.ai 💀

Bruh same 💀💀💀

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

Aireunaeus wrote: 25e15

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

Anaxii wrote: 445i9

emajakolic wrote: 3b1x33

I also used AI to talk to fictional characters- 🥲😭

...Same

Technically if you consider ChatGPT has a fictional character then yes

I use c.ai 💀

Bruh same 💀💀💀

Omg what is this

https://beta.character.ai/

If you use AI to assist you in your creative endeavors, then as long as you balance it and yourself, you're fine. Otherwise, using AI to replace you is a bad idea.

Neigdoig wrote: n1941

If you use AI to assist you in your creative endeavors, then as long as you balance it and yourself, you're fine. Otherwise, using AI to replace you is a bad idea.

unfortunately, people use AI for the bad like making art or writing an entire essay...

I think that AI is making us less creative in a few ways. I've seen plenty of videos of people just stitching together a bunch of AI generated images instead of something that is related to what they're talking about, likely because it's cheaper and easier to burn time like that. Also, AI for writing is so common these days that there are apparently books being sold that are written entirely by AI. A bit scary, but there's still people who make high-quality, original work, so maybe it's not all that bad.

anaxii wrote: 6q3t6

unfortunately, people use AI for the bad like making art or writing an entire essay...

That part is also true, but using AI for good, and if done right, should potentially outweigh the bad. Using AI in hopes of assisting rather than being a maid of sorts can be a good thing if it's done correctly.

Jangsoodlor wrote: 455q5

AI would allow creative ppl without talent to be free from their limitations. And create the works they have in their mind, but don't have the skills necessary to do it in the traditional way. So no.

Literally skill issue lmfao, if people like that aren't disabled they can learn pretty much anything

what do you mean by "us"
my creativity has not been impacted by AI at all lol

Neigdoig wrote: n1941

If you use AI to assist you in your creative endeavors, then as long as you balance it and yourself, you're fine. Otherwise, using AI to replace you is a bad idea.

actually, there is no ethical use case for generative AI imagery/audio when it comes to creative endeavors. if you believe that it can be used ethically, in any capacity, you are simply wrong.

Nanofranne wrote: 6iv6o

Some people like simple mass produced plastic chair, a lot of people prefer handcrafted artisan's teak wooden chair.

absolutely moronic analogy
a chair built in an automated assembly line is not at all analogous with generative AI content. an automated assembly line in a factory will have been designed in a way that, more or less, each step of the process will be replicating precisely what a human would do during that step, and the total end result is multiple copies of the same physical object with the same utility and function. the people who design these assembly lines necessarily know exactly how they work.

xch00F wrote: 2eb27

actually, there is no ethical use case for generative AI imagery/audio when it comes to creative endeavors. if you believe that it can be used ethically, in any capacity, you are simply wrong.

How is it that AI is considered unethical when using it ethically (i.e. not to replace, but assist humans in creative endeavors as a tool rather than an outright substitute for human intervention) is the future? I get the sentiment, but I also understand that ethical AI use will further our strengths... even if it means we need local models. The online models (ChatGPT being one example) that are neutered, I could see the point for being unethical.

There's one friend of mine who is absolutely not thinking by himself anymore. AI answers all his questions. Sad to see...I believe many (too many) are over-using this tool in their daily life now.

But then, is it really sad? We do the same with asking Google.

If you don't care about how or why you deserve to turn into a piece of mindless meat following generated bullshit

Lyawi wrote: 1df2j

There's one friend of mine who is absolutely not thinking by himself anymore. AI answers all his questions. Sad to see...I believe many (too many) are over-using this tool in their daily life now.

But then, is it really sad? We do the same with asking Google.

People been doing it with social media for years, but at least the answers are varied. AI is straight-up curated answers behind inconsistency.

I have the two best branded-speakers in the US in my house and still occasionally have to multi-prompt it to play music or a new stream; I asked for K-pop a few days ago and Amazon had some country/western first-song in their playlist 🤣 I operate on the assumption I'm smarter than AI most of the time with knowing what I want.

I'm also pretty sure most people just want to be like Jimmy Neutron and Goddard without the effort and drop-in someone else's AI as an easy solution to something. If you have a local box, do the set-up, and know how it works, you know the limitations of it and know how to work within them or how to improve it with code. Going over to a website with an AI search bar without even thinking about it is (imo) gross and the problem with lowering creativity.

And treating someone else's AI as a person like that Character thing posts above is even more-questionable territory.

Neigdoig wrote: n1941

xch00F wrote: 2eb27

actually, there is no ethical use case for generative AI imagery/audio when it comes to creative endeavors. if you believe that it can be used ethically, in any capacity, you are simply wrong.

How is it that AI is considered unethical when using it ethically (i.e. not to replace, but assist humans in creative endeavors as a tool rather than an outright substitute for human intervention) is the future? I get the sentiment, but I also understand that ethical AI use will further our strengths... even if it means we need local models. The online models (ChatGPT being one example) that are neutered, I could see the point for being unethical.

I'm not talking about all AI, I'm specifically talking about the use of generative AI imagery/audio. that has no ethical use case.

xch00F wrote: 2eb27

I'm not talking about all AI, I'm specifically talking about the use of generative AI imagery/audio. that has no ethical use case.

I'll play devil's advocate and say there is an ethical use for it

Hire an artist that agrees to create content for AI training. Create content based on trained style. Better yet be that artist and accelerate your own production

still unethical

I mean is not using your creativity the same as not having it?, yes, we're replacing moments that could lead to creative thinking with AI, but I don't think that necessarily means that we're going to be less creative, maybe just worse at problem solving

anaxii wrote: 6q3t6

So far, I've never used the artificial intelligence to help me with my tasks like writing something, but I do think that it contributes to our society being less creative and doing less great things than before. It was also the case when technology was new to us, and now it's a part of our life

It amplifies it. Things things like grammar fixes, basic draft, or data crunching freeing you to focus on big ideas

I wouldn't really say AI is making us less creative, but LLM's like Chatgpt might be hindering our critical thinking abilities and making us really lazy. AI is also contributing to new brainrot, if you go on social media most comments are AI generated. kinda sad ngl

YES.

im in college and the amount of people who use AI is insane. Not to mention, AI art steals from artists as well, both musically, written, and artistically.

I think it's actually the opposite.

AI is kinda doing more harm than good in this situation.

It all depends on how the person uses it, sometimes there are people who are looking for an idea from AI. There are times when we have to know how it all works rather than finish it quickly, because I think it's all useless if we don't know the basics.

But it all comes back to each of us.

i think it could depending on the way you use it

yes it does

i use AI sometimes to help do my schoolwork, it's much easier to do than searching on the internet or think hard

so it's definitely making me less creative

I only use AI to make up stories from my own imagination, and tell it about how good specific foods are.

yes, i lowkey forgot how to use my own brain ever since it started getting popular

ai “artists” too lazy to pick up a pencil and make actual art so they just go to the ai to make the most soulless work

yeah this is peak laziness

maybe, i dont know